Comments on: In Their Own Words: The NHS Rebuttal to the Associated Press (AP) http://blog.hishamrana.com/2009/08/13/in-their-own-words-defending-the-nhs chaos is the score upon which reality is written Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:07:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Philip http://blog.hishamrana.com/2009/08/13/in-their-own-words-defending-the-nhs/comment-page-1#comment-8491 Philip Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:46:33 +0000 http://blog.hishamrana.com/?p=749#comment-8491 May I also add my thanks for providing this article. May I also add my thanks for providing this article.

]]> By: Hisham http://blog.hishamrana.com/2009/08/13/in-their-own-words-defending-the-nhs/comment-page-1#comment-8490 Hisham Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:55:08 +0000 http://blog.hishamrana.com/?p=749#comment-8490 I recieved this comment by a gentleman by the name of Burt via Facebook. My apologies for the technical difficulties with the anti-spam measures. --- Thank you for publishing this full letter from NHS. We recently received a query on our Forum at Angioplasty.Org from a patient concerned about an article claiming that no one over 59 in England could get a stent, and that Obama\'s plan was going to copy that. Your blog provided us with a quick and definitive rebuttal to that argument!! It was also the only place I could find this information. Thank you again (we linked to your blog). FYI, The topic in question is at http://www.ptca.org/forumtopics/topic_health_care_reform.html I recieved this comment by a gentleman by the name of Burt via Facebook. My apologies for the technical difficulties with the anti-spam measures.

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Thank you for publishing this full letter from NHS. We recently received a query on our Forum at Angioplasty.Org from a patient concerned about an article claiming that no one over 59 in England could get a stent, and that Obama\’s plan was going to copy that. Your blog provided us with a quick and definitive rebuttal to that argument!! It was also the only place I could find this information. Thank you again (we linked to your blog).

FYI, The topic in question is at http://www.ptca.org/forumtopics/topic_health_care_reform.html

]]> By: Fort Worth, TX http://blog.hishamrana.com/2009/08/13/in-their-own-words-defending-the-nhs/comment-page-1#comment-8486 Fort Worth, TX Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:50:59 +0000 http://blog.hishamrana.com/?p=749#comment-8486 Thank you for getting this article out - I've been looking for it everywhere! I'll be sending this link to all my friends and family, no matter what side of the debate they're on. Thank you for getting this article out – I’ve been looking for it everywhere! I’ll be sending this link to all my friends and family, no matter what side of the debate they’re on.

]]> By: lak1 http://blog.hishamrana.com/2009/08/13/in-their-own-words-defending-the-nhs/comment-page-1#comment-8485 lak1 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:51:30 +0000 http://blog.hishamrana.com/?p=749#comment-8485 The doctors and nurses(and other healthcare workers) in the NHS are our greatest resource. NHS has many benefits apart from employing me for past 25 years. However Sennator Kennedy would not be treated in the UK as the treatments he had are not available in the UK and someone of 77 would not be flown to US for it. Although children with brain tumours are sometimes flown to US for treatment. We do not have the same outcomes as other western nations as we do not have easy access to technology. We do not scan as swiftly diagonsis is made later, we do not have modern facilities- a modern proton beam centre let alone one per million of population,we do not have the same access to modern drugs and methods. Why because Brits do not question their care, and blindly suppot NHS, while managers spend money counting empty beds and find new ways of describing patients rather than as waiting for treatment. While 16 y olds hand out free Tamiflu to any one who telephones and says they feel unwell with fever. It is correct to question our NHS it could be better if money was spent better. The doctors and nurses(and other healthcare workers) in the NHS are our greatest resource. NHS has many benefits apart from employing me for past 25 years. However Sennator Kennedy would not be treated in the UK as the treatments he had are not available in the UK and someone of 77 would not be flown to US for it. Although children with brain tumours are sometimes flown to US for treatment.
We do not have the same outcomes as other western nations as we do not have easy access to technology. We do not scan as swiftly diagonsis is made later, we do not have modern facilities- a modern proton beam centre let alone one per million of population,we do not have the same access to modern drugs and methods. Why because Brits do not question their care, and blindly suppot NHS, while managers spend money counting empty beds and find new ways of describing patients rather than as waiting for treatment. While 16 y olds hand out free Tamiflu to any one who telephones and says they feel unwell with fever. It is correct to question our NHS it could be better if money was spent better.

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.hishamrana.com/2009/08/13/in-their-own-words-defending-the-nhs/comment-page-1#comment-8484 Anonymous Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:24:04 +0000 http://blog.hishamrana.com/?p=749#comment-8484 I've been looking for the original text everywhere and, thanks to you, I now have it. By promulgating the truth, we can push back against the falsehoods spread by media demagogues, proliferated by an obsequious media machine, and accepted blindly by those who refuse to face reality and think critically. I'm going to share this e-mail with my friends. Thanks again for this post! I’ve been looking for the original text everywhere and, thanks to you, I now have it. By promulgating the truth, we can push back against the falsehoods spread by media demagogues, proliferated by an obsequious media machine, and accepted blindly by those who refuse to face reality and think critically. I’m going to share this e-mail with my friends. Thanks again for this post!

]]> By: Jim http://blog.hishamrana.com/2009/08/13/in-their-own-words-defending-the-nhs/comment-page-1#comment-8482 Jim Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:03:45 +0000 http://blog.hishamrana.com/?p=749#comment-8482 Thank you so much for publishing this information! I was really disturbed myself that I couldn't find the source material ANYWHERE on the internet. What was even scarier was how dozens and dozens of pages had just picked up the AP version of the story. No original reporting whatsoever! Thank you so much for publishing this information! I was really disturbed myself that I couldn’t find the source material ANYWHERE on the internet. What was even scarier was how dozens and dozens of pages had just picked up the AP version of the story. No original reporting whatsoever!

]]> By: JK Robinson http://blog.hishamrana.com/2009/08/13/in-their-own-words-defending-the-nhs/comment-page-1#comment-8481 JK Robinson Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:34:10 +0000 http://blog.hishamrana.com/?p=749#comment-8481 Thank you Hisham. Like you, I was frustrated when I could find the AP article everywhere (including the China Daily), but not the information giving rise to its writing. Of course, this is the endemic (nay pathetic) status of "journalism" today. We don't seem capable of cogent debate on any serious issues in part because (1) we have individuals who distort truth for their own purposes, (2) multitudes who accept distortions as truth without critical analysis, and (3) media content with reporting distortions as "news" without further investigation, fact checking or thought. The first condition, I suppose, will always be with us. Unfortunately, there is probably no hope as to resolving condition number two so long as our mainstream media are content with superficial, tabaloid reporting. Thank you Hisham. Like you, I was frustrated when I could find the AP article everywhere (including the China Daily), but not the information giving rise to its writing. Of course, this is the endemic (nay pathetic) status of “journalism” today. We don’t seem capable of cogent debate on any serious issues in part because (1) we have individuals who distort truth for their own purposes, (2) multitudes who accept distortions as truth without critical analysis, and (3) media content with reporting distortions as “news” without further investigation, fact checking or thought. The first condition, I suppose, will always be with us. Unfortunately, there is probably no hope as to resolving condition number two so long as our mainstream media are content with superficial, tabaloid reporting.

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